PS However, if Ford & O' Connell are right in their detailed balance argument, then black holes and cosmic horizons seem not to evaporate - the Unruh radiation seems to be restricted to the near field. This would not affect my Wheeler-Feynman total absorber conjecture for our future de Sitter horizon, indeed it might even enhance it.

On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:00 PM, JACK SARFATTI wrote:

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That paper you sent that the Hawking radiation does not radiate to the far field makes a lot of sense and is actually consistent with the classical formula

static LNIF acceleration = (Newtonian theory g-acceleration)(gravity frequency shift)

= (-gradVNewton)(g00)^-1/2

However, they even say that the Unruh effect is locally real - essentially a near field effect so that the stretched membrane idea still work and my idea of the horizon as a real electron-positron plasma from the blueshift giving the Wheeler-Feynman total absorber on our future dS horizon is still gasping for breath - not dead yet, though there are still issues I am grappling with.

Is there Unruh radiation?
G. W. Ford
Department of Physics,
University of Michigan,
Ann Arbor, Michigan 48109-1120
R. F. O’Connell
Department of Physics and Astronomy, Louisiana State University,
Baton Rouge, Louisiana 70803-4001
(Dated: February 1, 2008)
Abstract
"It is generally accepted that a system undergoing uniform acceleration with respect to zero temperature
vacuum will thermalize at a finite temperature (the so-called Unruh temperature)
that is proportional to the acceleration. However, the question of whether or not the system
actually radiates is highly controversial"